The Wiki-leaks DNC/Podesta emails you won't hear about from the MSM

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  1. ABDeL

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    1. Leaked Clinton Email Shows Hillary Clinton Is Plotting A Wider War In Syria. http://www.redstate.com/streiff/201...email-shows-clinton-plotting-wider-war-syria/"

      "Armed with proper equipment, and working with U.S. advisors, the Peshmerga can attack the ISIL with a coordinated assault supported from the air. This effort will come as a surprise to the ISIL, whose leaders believe we will always stop with targeted bombing, and weaken them both in Iraq and inside of Syria. At the same time we should return to plans to provide the FSA, or some group of moderate forces, with equipment that will allow them to deal with a weakened ISIL, and stepped up operations against the Syrian regime."
    2. Center for American Progress President Neera Tanden advised against raising the minimum wage because of job loss. https://theintercept.com/2016/10/10...m-against-15-minimum-wage-leaked-emails-show/

      Throwing meat to the democratic base by raising it to $15 was more important than righting the economic ship.

      "Substantively, we have not supported $15 – you will get a fair number of liberal economists who will say it will lose jobs. Most of rest seems fine (obviously trade sticks out). Politically, we are not getting any pressure to join this from our end. I leave it to you guys to judge what that means for you. But I’m not sweating it." - Neera

      "John Podesta (and the Red Army) want to support $15!" - Jake's response

    3. Hillary Email Leak: “We Can Do The Most Shaping” By Going To This Reporter http://www.redstate.com/patterico/2...eveals-reporter-campaign-considered-friendly/
      https://theintercept.com/2016/10/09...ls-clinton-campaigns-cozy-press-relationship/

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      "The "friendly" Maggie Haberman of Politico is now at . . . the New York Times. So it might be good to keep Haberman's Very Special Relationship with the Clinton campaign in mind as you read, for example, today's Haberman-penned story pushing the narrative of a beleaguered Trump, frightened to emerge from his "lonely fortress.""- RedState

      The Clinton campaign also listed many journalists who received cash in the past on their surrogate list

      "The Clinton campaign likes to use glitzy, intimate, completely off-the-recordparties between top campaign aides and leading media personalities. One of the most elaborately planned get-togethers was described in an April, 2015, memo — produced, according to the document metadata, by deputy press secretary Jesse Ferguson — to take place shortly before Clinton’s official announcement of her candidacy. The event was an April 10 cocktail party for leading news figures and top-level Clinton staff at the Upper East Side home of Clinton strategist Joel Benenson, a fully off-the-record gathering designed to impart the campaign’s messaging"- The Intercept
    4. GOP Debate Moderator, John Harwood, Boasted To Democrats About His Handling Of Trump http://www.redstate.com/streiff/201...ohn-harwood-boasted-democrats-handling-trump/

      Some of you might remember the terrible MSNBC debate that propeled Cruz as a serious contender due to his put down of the moderators. The debate was so bad that the RNC canceled a later debate with MSNBC's parent station, NBC.

      John Harwood was one of the moderators of that debate, and he boasted his efforts and exploits by kissing the ring of Hillary to see if she recognized his efforts:

      "I imagine...that Obama feels some (sad) vindication at this demonstration of his years-long point about the opposition party veering off the rails I certainly am feeling that way with respect to how I questioned Trump at our debate"- John Harwood
    5. LEAKED EMAIL. Donna Brazile Used Her CNN Gig To Warn Hillary Clinton About ‘Town Hall’ Questions http://www.redstate.com/streiff/201...na-brazile-used-cnn-gig-warn-hillary-clinton/

      ""Here's one that worries me about HRC," she wrote.

      "The day before CNN's planned town hall on March 13 with Clinton, Brazile, who was then a CNN contributor and DNC vice chair, sent Clinton Communications Director Jennifer Palmieri an email saying "From time to time I get the questions in advance."

      DEATH PENALTY 19 states and the District of Columbia have banned the death penalty. 31 states, including Ohio, still have the death penalty. According to the National Coalition to Abolish the Death Penalty, since 1973, 156 people have been on death row and later set free. Since 1976, 1,414 people have been executed in the U.S. That’s 11% of Americans who were sentenced to die, but later exonerated and freed. Should Ohio and the 30 other states join the current list and abolish the death penalty?"

      Palmieri wrote back to Brazile "Yes, it is one she gets asked about. Not everyone likes her answer but can share it," before instructing another staff member to send the campaign's answer." - Politico
    6. Bombshell Email Release Shows State Department Gave Special Attention To Clinton Friends After Haiti Earthquake http://www.redstate.com/joesquire/2...l-attention-clinton-friends-haiti-earthquake/

      "In a series of candid email exchanges with top Clinton Foundation officials during the hours after the massive 2010 Haiti earthquake, a senior aide to Secretary of State Hillary Clinton repeatedly gave special attention to those identified by the abbreviations “FOB” (friends of Bill Clinton) or “WJC VIPs” (William Jefferson Clinton VIPs)."

      I dont want to overwhelm you all with the full text, but you have to read the full ABC story to get the rest of the important details:

      http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/fobs...e-special-attention-friends/story?id=42615379
     
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    Isn't it just wonderful how locker room talk is still a bigger scandal.
     
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    Yep, that and i think what trump said is perfectly fine and normal. Stupid he got caugt on tape but still.
     
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    Him saying vulgar things about women is not the issue, the issue is that he basically brags about sexually assaulting women and getting away with it because he is famous. But overall I agree with Csigs, I don't see any groundbreaking revelation here that average person voting for Clinton did not know or suspect already.
     
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    It's not sexual assault talking about it in privat. It's not sexual assault either if he gets away with it. That would mean it's consensual because he is rich and famous.
    If they bring him to court and he gets away with it, the issue is still not with Trump.

    You are basically saying you don't have private conversations then. If you don't think you should ever say something you would not want on tape.
    What he said is the honest truth. Trump is so well known he could pick up ANY woman he wanted.
    I get why that kind of thing isn't okay with most people, that's probably for the best. But there are plenty bette reasons to hate trunp. That comment means nothing to me.
     
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    It was always obvious but this email talk absolutely confirms it.

    The response by the campaign in the email was that the "Red Army" (Democratic base) wanted it so to hell with sound economic arguments.

    From what I interpreted in this point, it seemed that Harwood knowingly made the nominees, specifically Trump, look bad and that Obama should feel vindicated for characterizing them as crazy.

    It doesn't change the fact that she was warned.


    FOBs were given special attention by the state department for funding.
    Non-FOBs who wanted to help in the Haiti recovery were redirected away from Government/Foundation funding.

    From the looks of it, government funding was dispersed through Hillary's State Department's USAID, which was disseminated primarily to companies and individuals who donated to Bill's Foundation, at the expense of the Haitian's best interest when it came to $10bn in relief funding.
     
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    I said if he can get away with it as in they don't object then it is fine!

    If they sue him and he gets away with it then ofc not cool, but he doesn't make the law.
     
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    That's not the right attitude. You can't just straight up grab people. If they haven't said anything yet, you don't get to assume that they're not gonna object.
     
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    I'm sorry Csigs, I can't let this one go. Building a luxury hotel as part of a recovery cannot possible be an example of good use of relief funds and REEKS of cronyism.
     
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    But thats not what a private charity is. Hillary used her position as Secretary of State to push aid taxpayer funds to organizations that were FOBs or organizations that ended up donating to the foundation. Thats cronyism, not private charity.

    There are a lot of private charities that do great work, rely on transparency and low cost of overhead to stay in business and do the most good. That is simply not the case with the Clinton Foundation, and pointing to the problem of private charity is irrelevant, not to mention that the foundation gains a sizeable amount of their contributions from foreign governments.

    There's a really low bar for an example of cronyism to pass. In this case, would Marriott have built a luxury Hotel in Port-au-Prince of all places, if it weren't for government funding? No it wouldn't have, because you don't have to make a return on investment when your investment is covered by taxpayers who had no say in the matter.
     
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    The Syria thing is really funny though. Blames Russia for the war in Syria. Plans to prolong and expand the war in Syria.
     
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    Stop forcing me to defend Trump :(
    Anyone who does that would obviously judge the situation and look at body language and eye contact and such.
    I think it's fine bragging about it, it doesn't matter to me. Which is all he did.

    I'm fine with treating hoes like hoes if that answers your question.
     
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    I never said anything close to this. But this isn't really a thinking cap discussion so let's end it here.
     
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    If is is consensual it is consensual, the reasons behind it doesn't matter is what i'm saying basically.

    The reasons behind consent are irrelevant. Consenting because the person is rich and powerful sounds fine to me.

    Trump never says he would do shit like that on the street with random women. He calls Mexicans rapists and murders, you can't take his generalizations literally.

    Another thing, imo. It just isn't sexual assault grabbing someones pussy. There is a clear double standard with these things. People wouldn't be so upset and call it that, unless they are mental, if a woman said/did the same thing with a guys cock.
     
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    Forced or coerced consent is not consent. If someone threatens or intimidates you in order to make you consent then it's not consent.

    There is a double standard but it doesn't make grabbing genitals okay. It is still sexual assault. If someone on the street randomly came up to your mother and forcefully grabbed her crotch while sticking his tongue into her mouth would you laugh it off as locker room behavior? Or would you think "she's a hoe tbh and that's how you treat 'em".

    I also have no doubt that trump has engaged in the behavior he describes, so on top of all his other failings as a human being he's a self-avowed sexual predator as well.
     
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    Come on Kyle. The liberal media had no problem with Trump and his borderline rapey antics when he was a democrat. Suddenly they have found their morals and released the tape 11 years later when they had it this whole time. Because he is a viable Republican candidate for the presidency. Suddenly they found their morals when trump isnt making them millions with the apprentice. Give me a break.

    This isn't an issue of whether it should impact Trump or not, but why the media waited so long to release. Surely they are trying to influence the election towards Hillary in Russian interference-level proportions. And thats really why I don't care about the audio too much, not because I have no morals, but because I'm not a Simon says sheep.

    EDIT: Csigs No idea what the unfunny rating is for, wasn't trying to be funny.
     
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    Some people have the strange notion that not only are "the liberal media" and "the democrats" monolithic institutions but that they are combined in some sort of uber-monolith. Why does it make sense for this to be a conspiracy? Of course, the Clinton campaign will release damaging information on Trump in the next few weeks but this is separate from that sort of opposition research because it was an internal tape that was only really discovered for its importance recently. I've also heard some say that this whole thing was a GOP conspiracy as evidenced by how quickly he was denounced by elected Republicans. The idea that "they had it the whole time" seems to suggest Hillary Clinton was personally keeping this on her private server or that Liber L. Media, CEO of ABCNNBC, released the video while tenting his fingers and cackling wildly.

    If being thrust into the public eye doesn't engender high levels of scrutiny then Hillary wouldn't have the approval ratings she has. Once he became a presidential nominee with a chance at becoming president the standard for behavior changes from that assigned to a reality TV personality. This caused people to reassess things he did and said under the previous standard. The things he's said on Stern like how he likes young models or that he goes backstage at pageants aren't illegal they're just gross and in line with his persona. Gloating about the ease with which he is able to commit sexual assault obviously crossed the line for a lot of people, you can't chalk this up to simply media spin.
     
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    Consenting because the person is rich and powerful sounds fine to me.
    I can't be that hard to understand..


    I like how Abdel puts it.
    Both sides are just so unbelievably bad, there is so much hypocrisy, it's only ever bad if it's the other side who does something bad, never your own side.
    When Clinton was in office, the democrats where like oh it's not so bad, what matters is how he runs the country. Now they make it sound like Trump actually has sexually assaulted women, because of a private comment. Talk is now sexual assault apparently.
     
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