The Wiki-leaks DNC/Podesta emails you won't hear about from the MSM

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  1. ABDeL

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    1. Leaked Clinton Email Shows Hillary Clinton Is Plotting A Wider War In Syria. http://www.redstate.com/streiff/201...email-shows-clinton-plotting-wider-war-syria/"

      "Armed with proper equipment, and working with U.S. advisors, the Peshmerga can attack the ISIL with a coordinated assault supported from the air. This effort will come as a surprise to the ISIL, whose leaders believe we will always stop with targeted bombing, and weaken them both in Iraq and inside of Syria. At the same time we should return to plans to provide the FSA, or some group of moderate forces, with equipment that will allow them to deal with a weakened ISIL, and stepped up operations against the Syrian regime."
    2. Center for American Progress President Neera Tanden advised against raising the minimum wage because of job loss. https://theintercept.com/2016/10/10...m-against-15-minimum-wage-leaked-emails-show/

      Throwing meat to the democratic base by raising it to $15 was more important than righting the economic ship.

      "Substantively, we have not supported $15 – you will get a fair number of liberal economists who will say it will lose jobs. Most of rest seems fine (obviously trade sticks out). Politically, we are not getting any pressure to join this from our end. I leave it to you guys to judge what that means for you. But I’m not sweating it." - Neera

      "John Podesta (and the Red Army) want to support $15!" - Jake's response

    3. Hillary Email Leak: “We Can Do The Most Shaping” By Going To This Reporter http://www.redstate.com/patterico/2...eveals-reporter-campaign-considered-friendly/
      https://theintercept.com/2016/10/09...ls-clinton-campaigns-cozy-press-relationship/

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      "The "friendly" Maggie Haberman of Politico is now at . . . the New York Times. So it might be good to keep Haberman's Very Special Relationship with the Clinton campaign in mind as you read, for example, today's Haberman-penned story pushing the narrative of a beleaguered Trump, frightened to emerge from his "lonely fortress.""- RedState

      The Clinton campaign also listed many journalists who received cash in the past on their surrogate list

      "The Clinton campaign likes to use glitzy, intimate, completely off-the-recordparties between top campaign aides and leading media personalities. One of the most elaborately planned get-togethers was described in an April, 2015, memo — produced, according to the document metadata, by deputy press secretary Jesse Ferguson — to take place shortly before Clinton’s official announcement of her candidacy. The event was an April 10 cocktail party for leading news figures and top-level Clinton staff at the Upper East Side home of Clinton strategist Joel Benenson, a fully off-the-record gathering designed to impart the campaign’s messaging"- The Intercept
    4. GOP Debate Moderator, John Harwood, Boasted To Democrats About His Handling Of Trump http://www.redstate.com/streiff/201...ohn-harwood-boasted-democrats-handling-trump/

      Some of you might remember the terrible MSNBC debate that propeled Cruz as a serious contender due to his put down of the moderators. The debate was so bad that the RNC canceled a later debate with MSNBC's parent station, NBC.

      John Harwood was one of the moderators of that debate, and he boasted his efforts and exploits by kissing the ring of Hillary to see if she recognized his efforts:

      "I imagine...that Obama feels some (sad) vindication at this demonstration of his years-long point about the opposition party veering off the rails I certainly am feeling that way with respect to how I questioned Trump at our debate"- John Harwood
    5. LEAKED EMAIL. Donna Brazile Used Her CNN Gig To Warn Hillary Clinton About ‘Town Hall’ Questions http://www.redstate.com/streiff/201...na-brazile-used-cnn-gig-warn-hillary-clinton/

      ""Here's one that worries me about HRC," she wrote.

      "The day before CNN's planned town hall on March 13 with Clinton, Brazile, who was then a CNN contributor and DNC vice chair, sent Clinton Communications Director Jennifer Palmieri an email saying "From time to time I get the questions in advance."

      DEATH PENALTY 19 states and the District of Columbia have banned the death penalty. 31 states, including Ohio, still have the death penalty. According to the National Coalition to Abolish the Death Penalty, since 1973, 156 people have been on death row and later set free. Since 1976, 1,414 people have been executed in the U.S. That’s 11% of Americans who were sentenced to die, but later exonerated and freed. Should Ohio and the 30 other states join the current list and abolish the death penalty?"

      Palmieri wrote back to Brazile "Yes, it is one she gets asked about. Not everyone likes her answer but can share it," before instructing another staff member to send the campaign's answer." - Politico
    6. Bombshell Email Release Shows State Department Gave Special Attention To Clinton Friends After Haiti Earthquake http://www.redstate.com/joesquire/2...l-attention-clinton-friends-haiti-earthquake/

      "In a series of candid email exchanges with top Clinton Foundation officials during the hours after the massive 2010 Haiti earthquake, a senior aide to Secretary of State Hillary Clinton repeatedly gave special attention to those identified by the abbreviations “FOB” (friends of Bill Clinton) or “WJC VIPs” (William Jefferson Clinton VIPs)."

      I dont want to overwhelm you all with the full text, but you have to read the full ABC story to get the rest of the important details:

      http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/fobs...e-special-attention-friends/story?id=42615379
     
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    1) Hillary being a hawk isn't news

    2) Neera Tanden has always been very publicly against a $15 minimum wage

    3) Certain reports have deep relationships/ties to certain politicians isn't really news, but it's always nice to have specific names tied

    4) I'm not really understanding, he's saying he agrees with Obama that the GOP is going off the rails? There are plenty of GOP politicians who're saying that publicly, and were then.

    5) Yes the DNC clearly favored Clinton throughout the primary process but I don't think she needed to be warned to be ready to answer a question about the death penalty in a democratic primary.

    6) You're going to have to tell me what I'm supposed to find troubling in this article, because "Clinton Foundation used ties to State Dept. to facilitate disaster relief" doesn't sound troubling.

    While there has been some useful information and nice confirmations of widely presumed things there has hardly been anything in the emails that I'd call a surprise. I think the one that most bothered me was the condescending/vaguely threatening email to Tulsi Gabbard (D-HI) after she resigned from the DNC to endorse Bernie
     
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    Isn't it just wonderful how locker room talk is still a bigger scandal.
     
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    Kind of, since that also did not give us any new information. If you didn't know Trump was an asshole before that you were willfully ignorant.
     
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    Yep, that and i think what trump said is perfectly fine and normal. Stupid he got caugt on tape but still.
     
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    Yeah man sexually assaulting women is just lulz amirite

    If you're wouldn't want something you're saying caught on tape you should probably reflect on why
     
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    Him saying vulgar things about women is not the issue, the issue is that he basically brags about sexually assaulting women and getting away with it because he is famous. But overall I agree with Csigs, I don't see any groundbreaking revelation here that average person voting for Clinton did not know or suspect already.
     
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    It's not sexual assault talking about it in privat. It's not sexual assault either if he gets away with it. That would mean it's consensual because he is rich and famous.
    If they bring him to court and he gets away with it, the issue is still not with Trump.

    You are basically saying you don't have private conversations then. If you don't think you should ever say something you would not want on tape.
    What he said is the honest truth. Trump is so well known he could pick up ANY woman he wanted.
    I get why that kind of thing isn't okay with most people, that's probably for the best. But there are plenty bette reasons to hate trunp. That comment means nothing to me.
     
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    It was always obvious but this email talk absolutely confirms it.

    The response by the campaign in the email was that the "Red Army" (Democratic base) wanted it so to hell with sound economic arguments.

    From what I interpreted in this point, it seemed that Harwood knowingly made the nominees, specifically Trump, look bad and that Obama should feel vindicated for characterizing them as crazy.

    It doesn't change the fact that she was warned.


    FOBs were given special attention by the state department for funding.
    Non-FOBs who wanted to help in the Haiti recovery were redirected away from Government/Foundation funding.

    From the looks of it, government funding was dispersed through Hillary's State Department's USAID, which was disseminated primarily to companies and individuals who donated to Bill's Foundation, at the expense of the Haitian's best interest when it came to $10bn in relief funding.
     
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    So funding went to organizations that the people running the dept had worked with previously and believed to be reliable? This sounds like sound business practice.

    I don't think anyone in the 'red army' didn't already believe that HRC was just pandering to us and didn't actually support much of what she told us she did.

    SteakOnSpear getting away with something does not mean you didn't do it and does not make it ok.

    OJ got away with it but he still killed someone.

    People loot during natural disasters and get away with it, they're still shitty people.

    I have private conversations that I sometimes wouldn't want to get out, but I'm comfortable with the reasons why. I don't say things in private that make me sound like a sexual predator because I'm not a sexual predator and wouldn't want someone to in private or public to think so.
     
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    I said if he can get away with it as in they don't object then it is fine!

    If they sue him and he gets away with it then ofc not cool, but he doesn't make the law.
     
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    That's not the right attitude. You can't just straight up grab people. If they haven't said anything yet, you don't get to assume that they're not gonna object.
     
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    If someone doesn't object because the person, not even necessarily Trump, is rich and/or powerful does that make the action ok? Are you OK with pro athletes or Bill Clinton treating women as such?
     
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    I'm sorry Csigs, I can't let this one go. Building a luxury hotel as part of a recovery cannot possible be an example of good use of relief funds and REEKS of cronyism.
     
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    You're right, that's why we shouldn't be supporting private charities in general
     
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    But thats not what a private charity is. Hillary used her position as Secretary of State to push aid taxpayer funds to organizations that were FOBs or organizations that ended up donating to the foundation. Thats cronyism, not private charity.

    There are a lot of private charities that do great work, rely on transparency and low cost of overhead to stay in business and do the most good. That is simply not the case with the Clinton Foundation, and pointing to the problem of private charity is irrelevant, not to mention that the foundation gains a sizeable amount of their contributions from foreign governments.

    There's a really low bar for an example of cronyism to pass. In this case, would Marriott have built a luxury Hotel in Port-au-Prince of all places, if it weren't for government funding? No it wouldn't have, because you don't have to make a return on investment when your investment is covered by taxpayers who had no say in the matter.
     
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    Or rather than inefficiently funding private charities and leaving it open to inevitable favoritism we could manage aid directly. Relying on the private sector to do the government's work always ends up with corruption, inefficiency, and worse outcomes for those that are supposed to benefit. This is not unique to foreign aid.

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    The Syria thing is really funny though. Blames Russia for the war in Syria. Plans to prolong and expand the war in Syria.
     
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    Stop forcing me to defend Trump :(
    Anyone who does that would obviously judge the situation and look at body language and eye contact and such.
    I think it's fine bragging about it, it doesn't matter to me. Which is all he did.

    I'm fine with treating hoes like hoes if that answers your question.
     
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