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So it appeared people couldn't wait to start shooting off their opinions on the candidates and who am I to stop them from doing so? Welcome to the Public square, your space for jeering or cheering at the candidates from the picket fence or your couch. 

 

Cheers

 

7 hours ago, ponasozis said:

Party: The greatest party ever no party like a communist party!

Platform: I WILL MAKE DIPLO GREAT AGAIN.I WILL RESTORE THE GLORY OF 2010 DIPLO

About me:I am literally the reason diplo is still alive who else are you gonna vote if not for me ?

 

 

Pona you're already a deputy which is a rank higher than tribune. You can endorse someone to run on your platform though. 

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1 minute ago, Abdel said:

 

Pona you're already a deputy which is a rank higher than tribune. You can endorse someone to run on your platform though. 

I mostly wanted to run for the memes and give the rank to somebody else lmoa

alright then @DragonRider mah boi you need to create Warhaven minority party so we are not discriminated by Burdens polls in the future

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Just now, ponasozis said:

I mostly wanted to run for the memes and give the rank to somebody else lmoa

 

 

Well you can campaign for someone else lol. But you can't transfer the rank to someone else and they have to partake in the debate. 

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20 minutes ago, Burden said:

 

 

But cell said he isn't running so he should be fair game to trash talk 

 

Yeah but now someone's candidacy post will get swamped in other shitposts

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1 hour ago, Abdel said:

 

Yeah but now someone's candidacy post will get swamped in other shitposts

 

The entire scheme is a shitpost anyways, the result of Abdel's late-night brainstorming session of "how can i increase activity in forum while not giving up any real degree of power?"

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1 minute ago, Feanor said:

Beets. BEETS!!!

 

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We all knew you’d turnip eventually 

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1 hour ago, Burden said:

We all knew you’d turnip eventually 

 

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8 hours ago, Spankfurt said:

Whenever I go hard on the beets I think I'm hemmorraging afterwards but it's only because they dye your stool

You're a dirty dirty boy 

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2 hours ago, Burden said:

You're a dirty dirty boy 

 

This thread has taken an unfortunate turn.

 

@Abdel what do you say? Purge the simulation?

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I am against child pornography. Has any of the other candidates said their opinion on child pornography? I don't think so. Would you like a child pornographer as your Tribune?

 

Vote DADDY'S CUMMIES, the only party who has taken a stance against child pornography!

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Almost no one in this thread is staying on topic, but I still had to scroll down an entire page. On discord I could've just skipped the 8 lines of spam on the same screen, but I digress.

A central component of most candidates' platform include "Diplo Unity" or some kind of merger. We all know what this refers to--reconciling differences with Diplo Gaming and merging back into one unified Diplo so that our lazy members don't have to look at two discords. None of the candidates, except me, actually have the relationships, work-ethic, wherewithal, and most importantly authority to make this happen. As an admin on DG I've already been working around the clock to get closer relations with Diplomunion. As I speak, high-level talks for a merger are underway in which I am a top-level negotiator. The empty rhetoric of my opponents is a promise only I can fulfill!

Prepare for the Walrusreich! Walrus Army--RISE UP!

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1 hour ago, IamtheWalrus. said:

Almost no one in this thread is staying on topic, but I still had to scroll down an entire page. On discord I could've just skipped the 8 lines of spam on the same screen, but I digress.

A central component of most candidates' platform include "Diplo Unity" or some kind of merger. We all know what this refers to--reconciling differences with Diplo Gaming and merging back into one unified Diplo so that our lazy members don't have to look at two discords. None of the candidates, except me, actually have the relationships, work-ethic, wherewithal, and most importantly authority to make this happen. As an admin on DG I've already been working around the clock to get closer relations with Diplomunion. As I speak, high-level talks for a merger are underway in which I am a top-level negotiator. The empty rhetoric of my opponents is a promise only I can fulfill!

Prepare for the Walrusreich! Walrus Army--RISE UP!

 

I feel like you snipe at the forums means you wouldn't make a good representative of the forums.

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1 hour ago, Feanor said:

 

I feel like you snipe at the forums means you wouldn't make a good representative of the forums.

 I was under the impression that this position was meant to represent people, not specific means of communication. My opinion is that by and large, the forums are a relic of a bygone era. They're useful for some things, but most of their functionality is improved upon by discord. I don't think that derailing the few topics people are interested in and spamming giant, irrelevant pictures is a good way to promote forum use. Stuff like that is much easier to ignore on discord. It's incredibly annoying to have to deal with 5 pages of it in every decent thread on here.

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Ughhhh these peasants can't even get endorsements, I could go more meme than I have before but is it worth my time and effort. 

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4 hours ago, IamtheWalrus. said:

 I was under the impression that this position was meant to represent people, not specific means of communication. My opinion is that by and large, the forums are a relic of a bygone era. They're useful for some things, but most of their functionality is improved upon by discord. I don't think that derailing the few topics people are interested in and spamming giant, irrelevant pictures is a good way to promote forum use. Stuff like that is much easier to ignore on discord. It's incredibly annoying to have to deal with 5 pages of it in every decent thread on here.

 

I disagree. I think the forums are still relevant and discord is far too disconnected. The forums are a community precisely because you can't ignore your neighbors. You're all in it together, beets notwithstanding. The discord is an easier place to find games to play. But it's also far more compartmentalized.

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19 hours ago, Feanor said:

 

I disagree. I think the forums are still relevant and discord is far too disconnected. The forums are a community precisely because you can't ignore your neighbors. You're all in it together, beets notwithstanding. The discord is an easier place to find games to play. But it's also far more compartmentalized.

The forums are just as compartimentalized—look at the different sections. Just because you have the same quality shitposts no matter the section or thread within the forum, doesn’t mean other people look at it the same way. You realize there’s an Azeroth Wars community here now, and in the past that almost never interacted with anyone else, right? In discord I can’t really ignore someone in voice. Also, the way conversation in discord is more naturally flowing, it just doesn’t make sense to ignore anyone who’s actually contributing to conversation rather than shitposting.

 

Overall, you haven’t really used discord. I haven’t ever seen you on it, either to type in text chat or speak in voice chat. How can you speak on the merits of something you’ve never even used for any reasonable amount of time? If the forums are still so relevant how come it takes such a massive, concerted effort to get people to use them? Even then, these efforts have had mixed results, only working on old members who have already used the forums before. When people naturally flowed to discord without incentives or concentrated efforts and the forums became a barren wasteland, at the very least you have to admit your view on how to use the forums is flawed, if it’s not an outdated medium entirely.

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1 hour ago, IamtheWalrus. said:

The forums are just as compartimentalized—look at the different sections. Just because you have the same quality shitposts no matter the section or thread within the forum, doesn’t mean other people look at it the same way. You realize there’s an Azeroth Wars community here now, and in the past that almost never interacted with anyone else, right? In discord I can’t really ignore someone in voice. Also, the way conversation in discord is more naturally flowing, it just doesn’t make sense to ignore anyone who’s actually contributing to conversation rather than shitposting.

 

Overall, you haven’t really used discord. I haven’t ever seen you on it, either to type in text chat or speak in voice chat. How can you speak on the merits of something you’ve never even used for any reasonable amount of time? If the forums are still so relevant how come it takes such a massive, concerted effort to get people to use them? Even then, these efforts have had mixed results, only working on old members who have already used the forums before. When people naturally flowed to discord without incentives or concentrated efforts and the forums became a barren wasteland, at the very least you have to admit your view on how to use the forums is flawed, if it’s not an outdated medium entirely.


The premise is flawed for many reasons. 

 

The site and the discord serve two different purposes. The site exists for big picture projects and initiatives, while the discord excels at day to day communication. Discord is infinitely better at establishing relationships with people while forums are better at keeping discussions organized and categorized in a fashion that helps us get work done. There's a reason why the staff here works better as a team on the forum, its because tasks and goals aren't being overridden by new tasks and goals. The discord works well meeting your friends at a Starbucks coffee shop but for more in-depth discussions or meetings, a library or forum discussion is infinitely better than discord. 

In addition, we learned this past year that many members, whether intentionally or unintentionally are distancing themselves from Diplo and creating their own private (or public) discord servers for their own personal use. Not only does this create an existential crisis for Diplo where the community is fragmented, it also poses a problem that any sperg can just secede their fief from Diplo. The site bots offer the opportunity to reach out to those people to establish feeds on their discord servers so while they can continue to exist autonomously, there's still a door open for them to be part of the larger Diplo community. 

And that's the main issue, the convenience of discord makes it so that the community will inevitably be divided no matter what we do. There will always be a minority of people who are unhappy with the policy of the majority and they'll break off to a new discord. The likelihood of this happening if we refocus the community's activity around the site is much lower, because if all the institutional value of Diplo is placed on the site, then it makes it harder for people to break off without dividing themselves from a huge portion of their diplo identity. Its a huge reason why we have older members who continue coming back, and newer members who aren't as attached to Diplo. 

Both Discord and the forums have their benefits and disadvantages. Shrugging either to the side as useless or inferior is not the right approach. 

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